Em 0:01
There's 1 million Zords in a Megazord.

Sabrina 0:05
Okay, see, now you're fucking with me.

Koji 0:10
[Laughs]

“SUNDAY, SOMEDAY” guitar jingle theme song plays with Koji singing
♫ Sunday… Sunday, someday… Sunday, someday… Someday soon… ♫

Sabrina 0:59
Maybe Monday. I don't like that one. Let me do it again.

Em 1:03
No, that's really good.

Sabrina 1:04
I don't like that one. Hold on, I gotta get a good one.

Em 1:08
That sounds like that podcast This American Life.

Koji 1:11
[Laughs]

Sabrina 1:12
Maybe Monday.

Em 1:14
[Laughs]

Koji 1:14
That was good. That was really good.

Em 1:16
That was really good. That was the most podcast voice I've ever heard. So yeah, this is “Maybe, Monday: The ‘Sunday, Someday’ Record, The Podcast.” Sorry... “Sunday, Someday: The Record, The Podcast, Maybe, Monday.”

Sabrina 1:35
[Laughs]

Koji 1:35
[Laughs]

Em 1:35
My name is Em.

Koji 1:37
And I'm Koji.

Sabrina 1:39
I'm Sabrina. Was I supposed to say my name or were you supposed to introduce me?

Koji 1:44
No, that was great. How you did it was great. Yeah, so how do we do it? We say, “Sunday, Someday: The Record, The Podcast: Maybe, Monday.”

Em 1:54
What about “SundaySomedayRecord.com: The record of the website, the podcast of... the podcast of the record of the website... maybe Monday.”

Koji 2:03
Right. We need to take all of these and stitch, like, overlap them into this cacophony of “Sunday, Someday.”

Em 2:12
I think we played it too safe in the early days of this uh... this campaign. And you know, we wanted to keep the messaging clear, direct and down the line. Now, I want to make it so confusing.

Koji 2:23
Yes, let's convolute! You know, when you're... when you're cooking, breakfast or dinner, listening to a podcast for a vinyl record that you supported, because you like the artists or the label. You want to feel disoriented, and driven to the point of vertigo, and set your house on fire and fall over and put your cat in a situation where it has to save you.

Sabrina 2:48
Your cat?

Koji 2:49
Yeah, or dog.

Em 2:51
Whichever one.

Koji 2:52
Whichever one or capybara. If you're lucky enough to have a capybara at home.

Em 2:55
Yeah, we don't subscribe to pet binaries.

Koji 2:58
All right. Let's do it. Should we podcast a little bit?

Em 3:01
Let's do podcasting.

♪ “Sunday, Someday” guitar transition jingle plays ♪

Koji 3:09
Sabrina.

Sabrina 3:11
Yes.

Koji 3:12
How are you? Where are you? What's going on?

Sabrina 3:16
I'm okay. I'm in Philly. And... what was your last question?

Koji 3:19
What's going on?

Sabrina 3:21
I've been living my life. [Laughs]

Koji 3:25
Yes you fucking have.

Sabrina 3:26
Just kind of normally, within reason. You know, I wear my mask and shit. I don't know... COD. And lots of Netflix.

Em 3:36
That's COD, right? Not god.

Sabrina 3:38
COD, yeah. Call of Duty.

Koji 3:40
Yeah, yeah. Duty of Christ.

Sabrina 3:43
[Laughs] Duty of Christ.

Em 3:44
One Nation Under COD.

Koji 3:45
One Nation Under COD. Yeah, you've been playing COD for basically a year. Now how long have you been playing Call of Duty?

Sabrina 3:52
I mean, I've been playing since like I was a child. But I started playing heavy when the new modern warfare came out. So before the pandemic started.

Koji 4:02
So do you have any COD friends to shout out right now?

Sabrina 4:05
Well, there's Kelly, Alexis, Jacob, Zach, Kale, Dan, Sapphire, Twee, Petty... Oh god, I'm missing someone.

Em 4:19
Dopey? Snoopy? Grumpy?

Sabrina 4:22
Yeah, I think those are everyone.

Koji 4:23
So Call of Duty is like a big through line in your life. And in recent history, you've been a part of this group call for like, what is coming up on a year.

Sabrina 4:33
Alright, story time! So, in 2012 I was super into pop punk. I was going to shows and then I stumbled across Koji's music, and I was really fucking with it. And then I got their lyrics to “Matches” - let's be specific - I have “If you could, would you then?” tattooed on my collarbone. I actually took a picture of it and tagged you in it on Instagram many, many years ago. And then you like, “Cool, that's sick.” And I was like, “Oh my god! Koji commented on my shit! That's so cool!” And then Koji stopped doing music and I was like, what the fuck? So I played the cover of “Eating Lemons” and put it on my Instagram. And Koji saw it and was like, “This is dope.” And I was like, “Cool.” And then fast forward a couple more years, and I put another cover of “Matches” on my Instagram. And then Koji was like, “This is dope, sing at a show with me!” And I was like, “Okay!” And then... we sang at a show. And here we are. [Laughs]

Em 5:36
That's really cool.

Sabrina 5:37
That's totally how that happened. So from 2012 to 2019 is how that transpired.

Em 5:42
That's awesome.

Koji 5:43
Yeah. And I had this feeling when I saw the cover, like, “Oh my god, you sing this better than I do in the first place.”

Sabrina 5:49
Oh, don't say that.

Koji 5:51
Well, it's true. You know, it was always in the back of my mind. Because in 2015, I was like, I am not playing music. I'm done. Like I basically was figuring out how to stop. And then when I was thinking about playing shows, again, in 2019, which was really because I connected Proper with Dan from The Wonder Years. And Dan was doing some Aaron West shows, and asked Proper to play one, and then asked Koji to play one. So I put together this band, that was all people that was like... If I only get to play one more show, who would I want to play with? How can I reach out to different parts of my life? So being able to play with Michael, who's also on the call, Willie, my neighbor, Cat, who's like a Filipina from Las Vegas, who was my neighbor in Brooklyn. And then Gabe, who is also on the split, who is Full On Mone't. And then, of course, you, Sabrina, with Solstice Rey. So like, it was like a dream to be able to put that lineup together. And we had never played a show before and never rehearsed all together before. And then we got together that day - which speaks to how great everyone is - it's just the level of preparation that everyone brought to it that we could just get together, pick it up and go play a set together. But it was truly magical. It was one of the most joyful experiences ever. And I think, looking at 2020 - that was December of 2019 - so it's really looking at like almost five years of not playing music at all, except for like, EU tour with Nervus and a UK tour. But yeah, it was so cool just finally getting to meet and play that show. And even though we didn't get to play shows in 2020, instead we're making this record. And then we've all connected, you know, we've grown this circle bigger by connecting with everyone in Nervus and Potty Mouth. So it's like a beautiful thing that just keeps giving, you know, like the relationships we keep building from the zoom call and the projects that we're doing. It's like... it's amazing.

Em 8:11
So we've never met, but we have played on songs together now.

Sabrina 8:15
That's true. Yes.

Em 8:17
So, your single...

Koji 8:19
Oh my god.

Sabrina 8:20
So I dropped an EP in 2019.

Em 8:27
The Rebirth EP?

Sabrina 8:28
Yes. And it's just basically a bunch of sad songs. Um... that's a lie. They're not all sad. One of them is sad. The second one is supposed to be angry. The third one is supposed to be like, a realization. And then the fourth one is like, “I'm a bad bitch. You can't kill me.” But I've always had this dream of like, being in a band, like a real band, you know, like a Paramore type deal. But...

Em 8:58
Me too.

Sabrina 8:59
[Laughs] But when I tried to do that many years ago, it just always fell through. So I then stuck to like, having producers make tracks. But then when I met everyone from the Zoom call, and then we talked about doing this split. I was like, “Well, my music doesn't really fit, so like, can we just do a pop punk version of my stuff?” And then everyone was like, “Yeah!” and I was like, okay, dope, and then Em was like, “I'll play guitar!” and I was just like, okay, sweet, I love this. And then it came to be.

Em 9:37
Jack from Nervus plays drums on that, as well.

Sabrina 9:39
Yes. Thanks, Jack. I appreciate you.

Koji 9:41
Yeah, I have to say that, Em, you produce the hell out of that song. And it was amazing how you re-envisioned that and just like, I'm so encouraged by how much the Zoom call, everybody that's on it, is so enthusiastic about different creative inspirations and making sure everyone feels supported in pursuing what they want to do. So holding that Sabrina always wanted to do like, full band arrangement rock songs. And for Em to just, who you are, like, one of the best producers that I know, multi-instrumentalist and production minds, but it was just brilliant to see that come together. So, I feel like it's such a gift to have those relationships in place but then for us to have this record where everybody worked on everybody songs, really. You know, cuz it could have been easy for us to be like, hey, let's do the Koji, Nervus, Potty Mouth stuff, but it wouldn't be good enough or wouldn't be complete because, you know, Sabrina and Gabe, are tremendous artists in their own right. So for us to be doing this five-way split is like, out of control. It's such a celebration of our community, our virtual community that we've just miraculously come upon and been able to keep going. And it really reflects those values of not just like doing creative community, but like, really thinking about care and being able to support each other through the challenges that inevitably came for us during pandemic and have been happening for all of our communities. So being able to, like, respond to creative inspiration and come with such support, or when we're going through some personal shit, it's... it's amazing. And I feel like it represents what people have been doing throughout pandemic in all of their communities. You know, we're faced with ourselves in this moment, and what do we want to do with our time? And for us to turn towards each other and go make art, but also support each other in the community projects that we're doing.

Em 11:49
I feel like we haven't spoken that much about where it came from, or what it is, and like, how much everyone sort of did for each other, as well, and just trying to do for each other, whether it be on the record or off the record. I feel like it's been... it's been the best. It's kind of like, you know, every Sunday we meet up and hang out on Zoom. And like, other people join and other people, you know, they aren't around, they don't join, but it's always there. And it's kind of like been our... been a community center, a virtual community center where we all come and hang out. And the record coming out of that was the coolest thing. And it was also, like, the coolest to be able to work on Sabrina's tracks in terms of reimagining those from what Traxx did... is it Traxx?

Sabrina 12:40
Yeah, his name is Traxx.

Em 12:42
...from what Traxx did, and turning it into something completely different. But with these like, pristinely beautiful vocal tracks. I was like, “This is gonna be so much fun.” And I cannot wait until live music is back to see you play it with a band.

Koji 12:59
Oh my god. Yeah, truly. Also shout out to Traxx because that original production is amazing.

Em 13:06
And “Winter Wonderland,” as well. That was Traxx too, right?

Sabrina 13:09
Yeah. That was... that was such a hassle to do. We were trying to like... because we just couldn't figure out how to not make it sound like a Christmas song, but also, like, make it sound like a Christmas song. It was... it was much, but we faded out. So I was like, okay, good.

Koji 13:28
I don't know what I'm doing. And I write these songs and put them out. And when I heard your voice the first time, just from being @ mentioned, I'm like, Oh my god, what the fuck, I didn't know, like... [Laughs] I'm like, this is just so technically sound but incredibly performed like, you just... you just feel it. And I feel like that hits you right away when you hear “Mountains.” It's just a brilliant vocal performance. And on top of that, your personhood is just beautiful and your energy is like, so fun and inspiring. So, I mean, I feel like people are so blessed that are tuning into this record and as it continues to, like, reach more and more people, I'm so excited for them to hear your voice because it's like, you know, it's not just like all hanging out and whatever, it's like the creative piece of experiencing each other is so beautiful. And I just, like... yeah... I just feel so inspired and blessed to know you.

Sabrina 14:40
Oh! My heart.

Koji 14:42
How does it feel to have your first vinyl record coming out in stores and putting out this “Sunday, Someday” the record?

Sabrina 14:50
I don't think it's really like, kind of... set in yet. But I feel like it will eventually.

Koji 14:59
What do you think about the rest of the record?

Sabrina 15:03
I think it's all dope.

Em 15:06
That's very diplomatic of you.

Koji 15:08
It's all dope!

Sabrina 15:09
[Laughs] It's all dope, yeah. What? I can't say anything bad about it.

Em 15:16
There's nothing bad on there, nothing you'd change? That's a politician's answer.

Sabrina 15:22
[Laughs] What?

Em 15:24
Who are you... [BLEEP]...?

Koji 15:26
Edit out everything about [BLEEP].

Em 15:29
Don't worry, it's gone. It's gone. [Laughs] Maybe I'll just leave it in but bleep out his name every time.

Koji 15:35
Oh, that'd be actually funnier. So people would just live in mystery about like, what other public figure we're speaking of.

Em 15:43
They'll just think we're speaking about [BLEEP].

Koji 15:47
[Laughs]

Em 15:47
Don't worry I'll bleep that out, too.

Koji 15:48
Please, for the love of god.

♪ “Sunday, Someday” guitar transition jingle plays ♪

Koji 15:57
Can you talk about the primal fear that you feel when you're playing Outlast?

Sabrina 16:01
I mean, Outlast is terrifying. It's, it's super anxiety inducing.

Koji 16:05
When are you going to finish it?

Sabrina 16:07
I can't, I can't play that game for more than an hour. Like once it hits the hour mark, I'm like, eh okay, I'm done. Yes.

Em 16:13
I've gotta say, you are... a self styled gamer, am I right?

Sabrina 16:19
What do you mean?

Em 16:20
You're a gamer.

Koji 16:21
You're a gamer. A gay-muh.

Em 16:23
You're a gay-muh.

Sabrina 16:25
I guess so. Yes.

Em 16:27
Yeah. Right. I'm not a gamer, right. I'm not a gamer.

Koji 16:33
[Laughs] I'm not a gay-muh!

Em 16:35
So here we have the fundamental difference between you and I. You're a gamer. I'm not a gamer. But even I... even I finished Outlast. I wouldn't leave it there hanging like a half-eaten Scotch egg. You have them?

Sabrina 16:51
No...?

Em 16:52
Scotch eggs?

Koji 16:53
It's like soccer, right?

Em 16:55
It's like... it's like a soccer with an egg in it.

Sabrina 16:58
No...? [Laughs]

Em 16:59
[Laughs]

Sabrina 17:02
It's gonna be left there, though. For the time being. I feel like my heart is falling out of my ass when I play that game. And it's just not a good feeling.

Koji 17:12
That's graphic, Sabrina.

Sabrina 17:14
Sorry! [Laughs]

Koji 17:16
[Laughs]

Sabrina 17:16
Sorry! [Laughs] But I need everyone to know that that's the feeling. You know, when you're going on a roller coaster and you just feel your stomach drop. That's the constant feeling I have when I play Outlast.

Koji 17:26
Yeah, I don't know if I could do it.

Em 17:29
In terms of, like, COD, you have an online community of people who you chat to and meet up with and play with, right?

Sabrina 17:35
Mm hmm.

Em 17:35
And Outlast is a single player survival horror.

Sabrina 17:39
Yeah.

Em 17:39
So I guess it's completely different.

Sabrina 17:42
I think also, it's because I have to wear a headset. Like, if I didn't have to wear a headset, I'd be fine. But because my headset, like, covers both my ears and it's surround sound, I can just hear shit. And if I... if I didn't have the headset on, I think it would be fine.

Koji 17:54
That's so scary. If someone wants to watch your streams, how do they do it?

Sabrina 18:01
Twitch.tv /SolsticeRey

Em 18:05
Twitch.tv/SolsticeRey?

Sabrina 18:07
Yes.

Em 18:08
And we can watch you not playing Outlast?

Sabrina 18:11
Probably. I'll play more Phasmophobia than Outlast.

Em 18:16
Ohhhhh!

Sabrina 18:18
Phasmophobia is the other scary game. Sometimes Among Us, just kind of whatever I'm feeling in that moment, but mostly COD.

Em 18:24
Do you feel, like, the uninhibited and kind of boundless violence in Call of Duty distracts you from the horror of living in the United States of America?

Sabrina 18:40
100% [Laughs]

Koji 18:41
[Laughs] Too real.

Em 18:48
[Laughs] That was a loaded question.

Sabrina 18:52
[Laughs] It is a great distraction.

Em 18:55
Yeah it's weird though, isn't it? People say video games cause, um... they've been the boogeyman for a long time. Video games.

Sabrina 19:03
Which I never agreed with that.

Em 19:05
Well, it doesn't logically make any sense.

Sabrina 19:08
It doesn't at all.

Koji 19:09
Hm. I'm wondering Sabrina, like, being in Philadelphia, and like, we're so lucky to have all these different perspectives, right? From Potty Mouth in LA, Nervus in the UK. It's been really interesting to track what's happening in these three time zones. And in two countries and on different coasts... three different coasts. So, I'm wondering, like, can you track a little bit of like, how you've grown or your sense of the group growing in what will be a year in April?

Sabrina 19:50
Um, I've never really sat and, like, thought about it.

Koji 19:53
Mmm.

Sabrina 19:54
But in thinking about it now, I mean, 2020 was kind of wild. I got arrested last year at a protest! I don't know, it's just, like, that protest also happened mid-pandemic. So it's like, all this shit was going on at the same time. And it's just like, I just feel bad for the kids in like 10 to 15 years that have to read American history. They're gonna be like, what the fuck is wrong with them?

Koji 20:19
Well, okay. So I mean, we were joking about before, but like, history is written by the victors. The major institutional forces... like, power is still consolidated the same way as it was before. You know, having all that uprising, my perspective is like, shit has not changed in the so-called United States. There was an election, what they're calling an “insurrection,” and then an inauguration, and a farce of an impeachment. I mean, like, all this has been going on, like a running thread for all of us, who have been a part of this record and this Zoom call is like we've had each other to be able to reflect on what's going on in an internationalist sense. So I'm like, yeah, it is weird when you stop and pause and think like, wow, when it was hot out, people were out in the streets, you know, and like that was before, like, the mass death that we've experienced. So like, yeah, I'm really wondering, like, are there core things that you feel like maybe you've learned or that you'll take forward as we're moving out of pandemic? As people are getting vaccinated and what not?

Sabrina 21:24
The one thing that really kind of opened my eyes last year was like, all of the protesting and stuff like going on... like going to a protest was kind of an eye-opening experience. And it was.. it was interesting just to, like, be there and like, see, and listen to what was going on. And like, see how angry people were. And then to like, kind of think back about like how my mom and like my grandparents grew up. So that's kind of like the only reflection I've really done in terms of anything that happened last year, which is just kind of like comparing and contrasting like, what I've witnessed versus like, what my elders have gone through. When we're like... when we learn about that stuff when we're younger, it goes in one ear and goes out the other just because we're young, and we don't like… we want to go play and have fun. But like, as an adult, you kind of can't ignore it. So I think it just came with like, growing up, you kind of see and understand you're like, “Oh, okay, this is what they were talking about.” Like it's not... I don't want to say it's not as severe as it was back then. But it's not as in your face as it was back then. Because you know, like back in the day, the signs, segregation, blah, blah, blah, and now like, “Oh segregation has ended, racism is gone away.” And then, like, everybody kind of hides behind that, you know what I mean? So, I think it's more so, like we've just grown up and can see, like, through the bullshit.

Koji 22:52
Hmm. Where are your folks from?

Sabrina 22:56
My dad was born in Philly. My mom was born in Virginia, I think? Um, but my grandparents, I don't know where my grandparents were born. I think they were born in Virginia? But my granddad's 95. So he would tell me stories about, like, how growing up, when he was younger, people would spit at him. And he would have to go in the back door in restaurants and crazy shit like that. So it's interesting to hear that, and then to see what I see now. And then it's also interesting because like, he... because he's 95, he doesn't know what the hell is going on. But I feel like if he did know what was going on, he would be like, what? You know what I mean?

Koji 23:40
Yeah, yeah, that is so interesting. Like, with respect to movement work, you know, we're not going to do this as millennials without Zoomers, without boomers, like, without intergenerational conversation because we need each other's eyes to see. And I feel like that's such an important lesson from our group is just having that multitude of different perspectives has allowed us to see through pandemic and through uprising with more fullness and more openness. I don't know if you relate to this, but like, for me, with our group and with my family, it's like... having those complicated conversations and how you make space for like family and whatnot in the confusion because it's just like, you know, we've all been institutionalized by school and the workplace, healthcare and whatever. Learning how to connect during a pandemic has been really interesting. Like, we've had such a pause because there's not as much entertainment, there's not... there's so much stress, like, so much has been revealed. And I think working through that family history and reflecting how uprising is played out, and really, like how the movement has been co-opted at this point. Whether it's like sports or people affiliated with Oprah, people are taking the movement and they're performing it and getting checks from it. But like, really, I know that there's some great value in the work that we've been doing. And in terms of like, group study, processing the collective trauma that's been going on, making our art, having good laughs and like, making space for joy and shit, too. I love that the lyrics in “Mountains,” so much in terms of, you know, what it invites in terms of reflection and persistence. And I think what I'm taking away from this time is like, being humble and knowing I have to ask for help in terms of like, the things that are good for me or whatever, like including just being vulnerable with our group. And yeah, I reflect on that a lot with your song “Mountains” because I'm like, damn, like, you have to spend the time with your trauma to work through it and be stronger for it and be more grounded. And I think it's a powerful song to have on the record in the context of all the songs that are there. So, anyway, if you're needing some help, check out that song.

Sabrina 26:08
I think your interpretation of it is cool, because that's when I wrote it... obviously when I wrote it we weren't in a pandemic, but I was just like, super depressed when I wrote that song because a stupid little boy broke my heart. Um, [laughs], so that's kind of cool.

Em 26:28
Was the stupid little boy called Donald Trump?

Koji 26:33
[Laughs]

Sabrina 26:33
[Laughs] I was like... I was like, “Oh, where's Em going with this question?” [Laughs] I was so nervous just now.

Em 26:45
[Laughs]

Koji 26:45
“Which one? Who? What are you talking about?”

♪ “Sunday, Someday” guitar transition jingle plays ♪

Koji 26:56
Sabrina, how do people find you in the ways that you want to be found?

Sabrina 27:00
Instagram, Twitter, and Spotify, I guess. And Twitch? Yes. My Instagram is @IAmSolsticeRey -- all one word. Um, my Twitter is the same. Spotify is Solstice Rey. And then Twitch is Twice.tv/SolsticeRey.

Em 27:19
Yeah, go and watch Sabrina play Outlast 2.

Sabrina 27:23
The only way I can get through Outlast is if I make fun of the characters in the game.

Em 27:27
Yeah, that's fair, that they can't hurt you if you humiliate them. Yeah.

Sabrina 27:31
See, I thought that and then, uh, there's one woman in the game... I got too close and she slashed me a few times. So...

Em 27:39
Well. People can be fragile. [Laughs]

Sabrina 27:46
[Laughs]

Em 27:46
Is there anyone that you want to shout out or thank? Or is there anything you'd like to say at this point before we wrap up and play the jingle?

Sabrina 27:55
I just want to thank all y'all, really, for letting me be a part of the group and stuff. And like, being super cool to me and listening to my shitty relationship situations that I bring to the Zoom call every Sunday. [Laughs] And my mom for being my mom and shit. And Traxx for the EP because it's dope. And Jack for playing drums. Yeah. Oh, and Meg! Thanks, Meg.

Em 28:24
Oh, and Megan as well.

Sabrina 28:25
Yes. And Kerry, too.

Koji 28:27
And Kerry!

Sabrina 28:29
And Mike and Willie.

Koji 28:30
Willie. Yep.

Em 28:31
The whole gang.

Koji 28:32
The whole gang!

Em 28:34
I'll edit that together so it sounds like you said it all in a row.

Koji 28:38
Yes.

Sabrina 28:38
Perfect.

Koji 28:41
Um, I have a question. Uh... is there any... how do you end a podcast? Is there anything that you say? Did we already say it? Oh, yeah. Thank you for listening!

Em 28:51
Yeah, thanks for listening!

Koji 28:51
Right? Right?

Em 28:52
What were we thinking?

Koji 28:54
Yeah, thanks for listening, sharing space with us, supporting the record. If you're here on the Bandcamp it's because you've either pre-ordered the record or were courageous enough to follow the link off of one of our socials. So thank you, thank you for listening in an age where there aren't shows and we can't be there to like, hang out with you and sell you on the fact that there is this pandemic pod that we're making now. So yeah, you're here. We hope to see you next week. And wishing you good health and good times. And I don't know, keep fighting the good fight. It's worth it.

“SUNDAY, SOMEDAY” guitar jingle theme song plays with Koji singing
♫ Sunday… Sunday, someday… Sunday, someday… Someday soon… ♫

Sabrina 30:18
Maybe Monday.